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From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Status line
Message-Id: <1994Dec15.141031.35539@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 15 Dec 94 14:10:30 MDT
References: <KSHAW.94Dec8032548@jobe.shell.portal.com> <1994Dec8.220403.34973@cc.usu.edu><1994Dec12.010826.7025@ais.com> <KSHAW.94Dec15090759@jobe.shell.portal.com>
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In article <KSHAW.94Dec15090759@jobe.shell.portal.com>,
kshaw@jobe.shell.portal.com (kendall thomason shaw) writes:
>>>>>> "b" == bruce <bruce@ais.com> writes:
>
> b> In article <1994Dec8.220403.34973@cc.usu.edu>, jrd@cc.usu.edu
> b> (Joe Doupnik) writes:
> b> This is very dependent on which exact VT terminal you're
> b> talking about. For the VT300 series, there is no way to
> b> incorporate the status line as part of the main screen,
>
> Okay, but I'm not trying to incorporate the status line as part of the
> main screen. For the last week or whatever I've been using kermit with
> terminfo and termcap entries for 80 columns and 49 lines, because this
> works and emacs, lynx, and everyone else puts a status line in the
> 49th line when they feel like it. My complaint is that removing
> kermit's status line (or rather the informative stuff about bps etc.)
> does not allow this line to be used by programs as an area in which to
> put a status line.
Oh yes it does. See below for the DEC way of handling this.
> Programs will write there but it doesn't get erased
> or the screen then scrolls with 2 duplicate status lines left on the
Huh? The status line does not scroll, as noted. Maybe your termcap/
terminfo structures need a little spiffing up.
> screen and lines getting written over by each other. If this status
> line is an integral part of vt-series terminals than it would be nice
> to have it used as such by programs expecting a vt-series terminal. If
> there's a way there's a will (mine).
>
> b> The VT420, on the other hand, actually does allow you to
> b> combine the status line with the main screen so that you get
> b> true 25x80 screen addressing but no status line.
>
> Um, any idea where I might find a terminal emulator which emulates
> vt420?
>
> Also, pointers to reading material about vt series terminals would be
> thoroughly enjoyed. I have some notes about escape sequences mainly
> for vt100, but I still have trouble getting a sense of what
> functionality programs typically can use with a real vt series
> terminal and what keys typically send what keystroke (and what a
> reasonable analogy for these keys might be on my pc keyboard).
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Some reading material for you, as two excerpts.